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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Kadamose wins the gullibility award this week :&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haha, totally awesome.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Haha, totally awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iron Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I rest my case.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Chemisor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chemisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 23:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kadamose wins the gullibility award this week :)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This post is just so ridiculous, I don&#039;t know whether to laugh or cry. I think I&#039;ll laugh for now :)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Approximately 4 billion years ago, this rogue planet called&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Nibiru (also known as Marduk) collided with a planet&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; four times the size of Earth called Tiamat&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note all the wonderful names :) It is amazing that someone has managed to preseve them so accurately for over 4 billion years! Oh, wait...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; In the meantime, the hominidae on Nibiru were already&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; evolving on schedule, and had quite a head start over the life on EArth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, Kadamose, when did you last talk to those hominidae on Nibiru? Do you have a regular correspondence schedule, or what? Perhaps you could ask them to make some more oil for us, &#039;cause we seem to be running out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Then, about 450,000 years ago, the inhabitants of Nibiru&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; were facing a crisis; their planet&#039;s atmosphere was waning, and&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; could no longer keep the heat in, and to top it off, volcanic&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; activity was beginning to wane, as well&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now, let&#039;s see. You have a planet that nobody has ever seen, hominids that have evolved naturally (kinda puts you in a bind to explain why humans could not have done the same, does it not?), Earth-seeding, and this incredibly detailed history. All hail Kadamose, the most powerful psychic who ever lived! He is so strong in his ESP, he can sense events happening 450000 years ago on a planet some light years away. Perhaps you could enlighten us where they get their energy? Furthermore, they have no sunlight at all; no sunlight = no heat; no heat = no atmosphere. Or perhaps, you would like to invent an &quot;extra sun&quot; for them as well?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Among these were two brothers - Enki, who was a genius scientist,&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; and Enlil, who was a half brother, born from a half sister of his father,&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Anu, and heir to the throne of Nibiru.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gosh, an evil scientist, a bastard, and a prince! Could it get any more exciting than that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Initially, 600 of these &#039;alien astronauts&#039; landed on Earth first and began to mine for gold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, that&#039;s right, we forgot treasure!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Enki then exclaimed &quot;Let us create a primitive worker to mine the gold for us!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And slaves!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; But then Enki exclaimed, &quot;This primitive worker already exists!&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; All we have to do is to imprint our image and likeness upon it!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And a giant conspiracy to make humans look like gods but to actually be evil. Now, why would Enki want his primitive workers look like him?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; This is why in the Bible, in Genesis, the statement,&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; &quot;Let US create man in our own image and likeness&quot; is in plural.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s not forget the Bible either. That should silence any opposition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; This was a very inefficient way to create primitive workers, so Enki&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; genetically tampered with humans, once again, and gave them the ability to reproduce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I guess he couldn&#039;t have done this to begin with. I guess Homo Erectus didn&#039;t have much sex.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; his enraged his brother, Enlil - and he is quoted as saying,&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; &quot;You gave them a taste of the tree of knowledge; next you will probably&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; give them a taste of the tree of life&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting. So &quot;knowledge&quot; actually means &quot;sex&quot;!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Nonetheless, the primitive workers were then cast out of the spaceport&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Who could possibly mistake a spaceport for a garden?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; the Anunnaki males were attracted to the human females, and began to mate with them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh, goody! The Whitehouse interns strike again! Now we can add a sex scandal to the story. This is getting better by the minute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; this, too, is quoted in the Bible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s not forget to mention the Bible again, to allow those underware tents to abate ;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; There are many other books on this subject, but the above ones are&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; the most important, since they provide actual physical PROOF of all of this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And what physical PROOF can a book provide? Do they have some &quot;Enki teeth&quot; to sell you? :) Seriously, Kadamose, you need to stop believing everything you hear. And, by the way, I have a great piece of swampland in Florida that you might be interested in buying.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kadamose wins the gullibility award this week <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
<p>This post is just so ridiculous, I don&#39;t know whether to laugh or cry. I think I&#39;ll laugh for now <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt; Approximately 4 billion years ago, this rogue planet called<br />
&gt; Nibiru (also known as Marduk) collided with a planet<br />
&gt; four times the size of Earth called Tiamat</p>
<p>Note all the wonderful names <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It is amazing that someone has managed to preseve them so accurately for over 4 billion years! Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt; In the meantime, the hominidae on Nibiru were already<br />
&gt; evolving on schedule, and had quite a head start over the life on EArth.</p>
<p>So, Kadamose, when did you last talk to those hominidae on Nibiru? Do you have a regular correspondence schedule, or what? Perhaps you could ask them to make some more oil for us, &#39;cause we seem to be running out.</p>
<p>&gt; Then, about 450,000 years ago, the inhabitants of Nibiru<br />
&gt; were facing a crisis; their planet&#39;s atmosphere was waning, and<br />
&gt; could no longer keep the heat in, and to top it off, volcanic<br />
&gt; activity was beginning to wane, as well</p>
<p>Now, let&#39;s see. You have a planet that nobody has ever seen, hominids that have evolved naturally (kinda puts you in a bind to explain why humans could not have done the same, does it not?), Earth-seeding, and this incredibly detailed history. All hail Kadamose, the most powerful psychic who ever lived! He is so strong in his ESP, he can sense events happening 450000 years ago on a planet some light years away. Perhaps you could enlighten us where they get their energy? Furthermore, they have no sunlight at all; no sunlight = no heat; no heat = no atmosphere. Or perhaps, you would like to invent an &quot;extra sun&quot; for them as well?</p>
<p>&gt; Among these were two brothers &#8211; Enki, who was a genius scientist,<br />
&gt; and Enlil, who was a half brother, born from a half sister of his father,<br />
&gt; Anu, and heir to the throne of Nibiru.</p>
<p>Gosh, an evil scientist, a bastard, and a prince! Could it get any more exciting than that?</p>
<p>&gt; Initially, 600 of these &#39;alien astronauts&#39; landed on Earth first and began to mine for gold.</p>
<p>Oh, that&#39;s right, we forgot treasure!</p>
<p>&gt; Enki then exclaimed &quot;Let us create a primitive worker to mine the gold for us!&quot;</p>
<p>And slaves!</p>
<p>&gt; But then Enki exclaimed, &quot;This primitive worker already exists!<br />
&gt; All we have to do is to imprint our image and likeness upon it!&quot;</p>
<p>And a giant conspiracy to make humans look like gods but to actually be evil. Now, why would Enki want his primitive workers look like him?</p>
<p>&gt; This is why in the Bible, in Genesis, the statement,<br />
&gt; &quot;Let US create man in our own image and likeness&quot; is in plural.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s not forget the Bible either. That should silence any opposition.</p>
<p>&gt; This was a very inefficient way to create primitive workers, so Enki<br />
&gt; genetically tampered with humans, once again, and gave them the ability to reproduce.</p>
<p>I guess he couldn&#39;t have done this to begin with. I guess Homo Erectus didn&#39;t have much sex.</p>
<p>&gt; his enraged his brother, Enlil &#8211; and he is quoted as saying,<br />
&gt; &quot;You gave them a taste of the tree of knowledge; next you will probably<br />
&gt; give them a taste of the tree of life&quot;.</p>
<p>Interesting. So &quot;knowledge&quot; actually means &quot;sex&quot;!</p>
<p>&gt; Nonetheless, the primitive workers were then cast out of the spaceport</p>
<p>Who could possibly mistake a spaceport for a garden?</p>
<p>&gt; the Anunnaki males were attracted to the human females, and began to mate with them</p>
<p>Oh, goody! The Whitehouse interns strike again! Now we can add a sex scandal to the story. This is getting better by the minute.</p>
<p>&gt; this, too, is quoted in the Bible</p>
<p>Let&#39;s not forget to mention the Bible again, to allow those underware tents to abate <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt; There are many other books on this subject, but the above ones are<br />
&gt; the most important, since they provide actual physical PROOF of all of this.</p>
<p>And what physical PROOF can a book provide? Do they have some &quot;Enki teeth&quot; to sell you? <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Seriously, Kadamose, you need to stop believing everything you hear. And, by the way, I have a great piece of swampland in Florida that you might be interested in buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=1605#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 20:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;physical proof? You obviously don&#039;t understand what science is, so I&#039;m going to assume you are one who can be told that someone has proof and automatically believe him or her.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s your problem: you will question anything mainstream but not question anything that is far out or a conspiracy theory. You do not see any problem here either. If you could once in your life judge all information fairly, you might come to some interesting conclusions on your own.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since you don&#039;t have any care for scientific methods or principles, I will encourage you to not populate scientific forums with your drivel until you produce an alien yourself to show us all. Read all the fairy tales you want, just don&#039;t bring them to a scientific forum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>physical proof? You obviously don&#39;t understand what science is, so I&#39;m going to assume you are one who can be told that someone has proof and automatically believe him or her.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s your problem: you will question anything mainstream but not question anything that is far out or a conspiracy theory. You do not see any problem here either. If you could once in your life judge all information fairly, you might come to some interesting conclusions on your own.</p>
<p>Since you don&#39;t have any care for scientific methods or principles, I will encourage you to not populate scientific forums with your drivel until you produce an alien yourself to show us all. Read all the fairy tales you want, just don&#39;t bring them to a scientific forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Kadamose</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=1605#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator>Kadamose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 18:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s pretty much the same thing, yes. The story goes that there is an extra planet within our very own solar system that has an eliptical orbit of 3,600 years around the sun, and passes between Mars and Jupiter. Approximately 4 billion years ago, this rogue planet called Nibiru (also known as Marduk) collided with a planet four times the size of Earth called Tiamat, and destroyed more than half of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitchin.com/asteroid.htm&quot;&gt;planet&lt;/a&gt; - the remaining remnants of that planet became Earth. During this collision, the &#039;seed of life&#039; was passed on from Nibiru to Earth, but due to the massive damage caused, the life on earth went into hibernation, while the life on Nibiru began to flourish and evolve.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
About 1 billion years passed before the life that had been seeded on Earth would wake up and begin to evolve on its own.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the meantime, the hominidae on Nibiru were already evolving on schedule, and had quite a head start over the life on EArth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, about 450,000 years ago, the inhabitants of Nibiru were facing a crisis; their planet&#039;s atmosphere was waning, and could no longer keep the heat in, and to top it off, volcanic activity was beginning to wane, as well. These naturally evolved &#039;humans&#039; then came up with a plan to create an artificial atmosphere using gold particles to save their planet; the only problem was, gold was extremely rare on Nibiru and there was not enough there to sustain them; they had to look for another source. They then set their gaze to Earth, which seemed to possess unimaginable amounts of this rare necessity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Initially, 600 of these &#039;alien astronauts&#039; landed on Earth first and began to mine for gold. Among these were two brothers - Enki, who was a genius scientist, and Enlil, who was a half brother, born from a half sister of his father, Anu, and heir to the throne of Nibiru.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mining went on for thousands of years, until about 320,000 years ago - when then the Anunnaki (it means Those who from Heaven to Earth Came) began to complain about the harsh mining conditions and mutinied. Enki then exclaimed &quot;Let us create a primitive worker to mine the gold for us!&quot; Of course, nobody was convinced of this statement at first because they all knew that none of them possessed the ability to create a lifeform from scratch. But then Enki exclaimed, &quot;This primitive worker already exists! All we have to do is to imprint our image and likeness upon it!&quot; Enki was, of course, referring to the Homo Erectus that had been found on the planet during that time, and his plan was to genetically combine Anunnaki genes with that of the Homo Erectus to, basically, jump the gun on evolution and create an &#039;intelligent&#039; primitive worker.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is why in the Bible, in Genesis, the statement, &quot;Let US create man in our own image and likeness&quot; is in plural.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first &#039;humans&#039; created were hybrids, and could not reproduce on their own - and were born via what was known as &#039;birth goddesses&quot;. This was a very inefficient way to create primitive workers, so Enki genetically tampered with humans, once again, and gave them the ability to reproduce. This enraged his brother, Enlil - and he is quoted as saying, &quot;You gave them a taste of the tree of knowledge; next you will probably give them a taste of the tree of life&quot;. Enki then exclaimed, &quot;Wisdom and knowledge I did give them, but of the tree of life I did not.&quot; Nonetheless, the primitive workers were then cast out of the spaceport, &#039;Eden&#039; by Enlil&#039;s order.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But then something unexpected happened - the Anunnaki males were attracted to the human females, and began to mate with them - this, too, is quoted in the Bible: &#039;The Sons of God found the Daughters of Man to be fair and had children with them&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I&#039;d like to continue this, but this is getting to be quite a lengthy post. Books that you should read:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Twelfth Planet&lt;/em&gt; by Zecharia Sitchin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Genesis Revisited&lt;/em&gt; by Zecharia Sitchin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Lost Book of Enki&lt;/em&gt; by Zecharia Sitchin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Breaking the Godspell&lt;/em&gt; by Neil Freer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;God Games&lt;/em&gt; by Neil Freer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are many other books on this subject, but the above ones are the most important, since they provide actual physical PROOF of all of this.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>It&#39;s pretty much the same thing, yes. The story goes that there is an extra planet within our very own solar system that has an eliptical orbit of 3,600 years around the sun, and passes between Mars and Jupiter. Approximately 4 billion years ago, this rogue planet called Nibiru (also known as Marduk) collided with a planet four times the size of Earth called Tiamat, and destroyed more than half of the <a href="http://www.sitchin.com/asteroid.htm">planet</a> &#8211; the remaining remnants of that planet became Earth. During this collision, the &#39;seed of life&#39; was passed on from Nibiru to Earth, but due to the massive damage caused, the life on earth went into hibernation, while the life on Nibiru began to flourish and evolve.</p>
<p>About 1 billion years passed before the life that had been seeded on Earth would wake up and begin to evolve on its own.</p>
<p>In the meantime, the hominidae on Nibiru were already evolving on schedule, and had quite a head start over the life on EArth.</p>
<p>Then, about 450,000 years ago, the inhabitants of Nibiru were facing a crisis; their planet&#39;s atmosphere was waning, and could no longer keep the heat in, and to top it off, volcanic activity was beginning to wane, as well. These naturally evolved &#39;humans&#39; then came up with a plan to create an artificial atmosphere using gold particles to save their planet; the only problem was, gold was extremely rare on Nibiru and there was not enough there to sustain them; they had to look for another source. They then set their gaze to Earth, which seemed to possess unimaginable amounts of this rare necessity.</p>
<p>Initially, 600 of these &#39;alien astronauts&#39; landed on Earth first and began to mine for gold. Among these were two brothers &#8211; Enki, who was a genius scientist, and Enlil, who was a half brother, born from a half sister of his father, Anu, and heir to the throne of Nibiru.</p>
<p>Mining went on for thousands of years, until about 320,000 years ago &#8211; when then the Anunnaki (it means Those who from Heaven to Earth Came) began to complain about the harsh mining conditions and mutinied. Enki then exclaimed &quot;Let us create a primitive worker to mine the gold for us!&quot; Of course, nobody was convinced of this statement at first because they all knew that none of them possessed the ability to create a lifeform from scratch. But then Enki exclaimed, &quot;This primitive worker already exists! All we have to do is to imprint our image and likeness upon it!&quot; Enki was, of course, referring to the Homo Erectus that had been found on the planet during that time, and his plan was to genetically combine Anunnaki genes with that of the Homo Erectus to, basically, jump the gun on evolution and create an &#39;intelligent&#39; primitive worker.</p>
<p>This is why in the Bible, in Genesis, the statement, &quot;Let US create man in our own image and likeness&quot; is in plural.</p>
<p>The first &#39;humans&#39; created were hybrids, and could not reproduce on their own &#8211; and were born via what was known as &#39;birth goddesses&quot;. This was a very inefficient way to create primitive workers, so Enki genetically tampered with humans, once again, and gave them the ability to reproduce. This enraged his brother, Enlil &#8211; and he is quoted as saying, &quot;You gave them a taste of the tree of knowledge; next you will probably give them a taste of the tree of life&quot;. Enki then exclaimed, &quot;Wisdom and knowledge I did give them, but of the tree of life I did not.&quot; Nonetheless, the primitive workers were then cast out of the spaceport, &#39;Eden&#39; by Enlil&#39;s order.</p>
<p>But then something unexpected happened &#8211; the Anunnaki males were attracted to the human females, and began to mate with them &#8211; this, too, is quoted in the Bible: &#39;The Sons of God found the Daughters of Man to be fair and had children with them&#39;.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#39;d like to continue this, but this is getting to be quite a lengthy post. Books that you should read:</p>
<p><em>The Twelfth Planet</em> by Zecharia Sitchin<br />
<em>Genesis Revisited</em> by Zecharia Sitchin<br />
<em>The Lost Book of Enki</em> by Zecharia Sitchin<br />
<em>Breaking the Godspell</em> by Neil Freer<br />
<em>God Games</em> by Neil Freer</p>
<p>There are many other books on this subject, but the above ones are the most important, since they provide actual physical PROOF of all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kadamose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadamose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, so you&#039;ve finally decided to de-lurk...how trite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As far as discrediting is concerned...this was done by whom? When? There has been no &#039;scientific&#039; data to discredit any of this - only religious babble.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Oh, so you&#39;ve finally decided to de-lurk&#8230;how trite.</p>
<p>As far as discrediting is concerned&#8230;this was done by whom? When? There has been no &#39;scientific&#39; data to discredit any of this &#8211; only religious babble.</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Sun</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;My other beliefs (i.e. Aids and Ebola were manmade, and human beings were created by an alien race known as the Anunnaki) are all based on facts, that have yet to be discredited.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Actually, Travis, they have. Repeatedly. With big diagrams and small, unconfusing words. You just wave your hands and say that its a conspiracy to hide the truth/erroneous in spite of direct observational and experimental data/just plain stupid shut up shut up shut up!&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><em>My other beliefs (i.e. Aids and Ebola were manmade, and human beings were created by an alien race known as the Anunnaki) are all based on facts, that have yet to be discredited.</em></p>
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<p>Actually, Travis, they have. Repeatedly. With big diagrams and small, unconfusing words. You just wave your hands and say that its a conspiracy to hide the truth/erroneous in spite of direct observational and experimental data/just plain stupid shut up shut up shut up!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 23:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you talking about The Sirius Mystery? I&#039;ll admit the information the Dogon provided about Sirius is interesting, but the rest of that book is rubbish in my opinion: poorly written and making huge leaps of logic. I would not be surprised if the reason for the Dogon&#039;s knowledge is just a matter of happenstance and some unusually round numbers found in nature (i.e. the 50 year cycle of the stars). Recall that hindsight is 20/20. Taking their knowledge and applying it to the phenomenon of the Sirius system could just show an interesting result due to our own anthropomorphic bias. On the other hand, it could be true. But then you&#039;d have to wonder why they would decide to come over here and do it. It takes a LOT of energy to travel between stars, no matter how one does it. I&#039;m sure there&#039;s many reasons as to why travelling to civilizations is inefficient. This puts the burden of proof on you.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Are you talking about The Sirius Mystery? I&#39;ll admit the information the Dogon provided about Sirius is interesting, but the rest of that book is rubbish in my opinion: poorly written and making huge leaps of logic. I would not be surprised if the reason for the Dogon&#39;s knowledge is just a matter of happenstance and some unusually round numbers found in nature (i.e. the 50 year cycle of the stars). Recall that hindsight is 20/20. Taking their knowledge and applying it to the phenomenon of the Sirius system could just show an interesting result due to our own anthropomorphic bias. On the other hand, it could be true. But then you&#39;d have to wonder why they would decide to come over here and do it. It takes a LOT of energy to travel between stars, no matter how one does it. I&#39;m sure there&#39;s many reasons as to why travelling to civilizations is inefficient. This puts the burden of proof on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kadamose</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=1605#comment-4543</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My definition of divine means the ability to emulate the universe - to create anything that we can possibly imagine, and doing it with compassion. That is my definition of a godlike being.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, it&#039;s true that we can understand the universe through observation and learn how stuff works...but we&#039;ll never know WHY it exists, until we find the meaning of our very own existence...which has yet to be done. Unfortunately, more people are more concerned with the how, than the why, so we&#039;ll probably never know our true purpose until a paridgm shift occurs that makes the &#039;why&#039; equally important to the &#039;how&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the claim of MNT currently in use by the military/government, I currently have no proof at this time, but I am quite sure that will change very soon. My other beliefs (i.e. Aids and Ebola were manmade, and human beings were created by an alien race known as the Anunnaki) are all based on facts, that have yet to be discredited.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want references to the above material, then I will be more than happy to share; there&#039;s more than one source.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>My definition of divine means the ability to emulate the universe &#8211; to create anything that we can possibly imagine, and doing it with compassion. That is my definition of a godlike being.</p>
<p>Also, it&#39;s true that we can understand the universe through observation and learn how stuff works&#8230;but we&#39;ll never know WHY it exists, until we find the meaning of our very own existence&#8230;which has yet to be done. Unfortunately, more people are more concerned with the how, than the why, so we&#39;ll probably never know our true purpose until a paridgm shift occurs that makes the &#39;why&#39; equally important to the &#39;how&#39;.</p>
<p>As for the claim of MNT currently in use by the military/government, I currently have no proof at this time, but I am quite sure that will change very soon. My other beliefs (i.e. Aids and Ebola were manmade, and human beings were created by an alien race known as the Anunnaki) are all based on facts, that have yet to be discredited.</p>
<p>If you want references to the above material, then I will be more than happy to share; there&#39;s more than one source.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2004 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:Has Foresight really accomplished its mission?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, thank you for the dictionary definition. I could have done that myself. What I would have liked is a more precise meaning from you. What does it mean to be superhuman? Do you mean people will become beings of pure energy or something? Or do you think we will just have increased physical capabilities? To say we will be gods is a somewhat cryptic statement as God has never really been defined.&lt;br /&gt;
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We can understand the universe without understanding ourselves since we can use our brain without understanding how it works. From what I have learned and observed, we will never escape our own physicality. There was, however, a doctor who did an experiment where he wrote down a number on a piece of paper and placed on a high shelf in an envelope. A subject was in the same room and on a bed and fell asleep. During the night he claimed to release his spirit or something and his spirit read the number. When he woke up, he supposedly gave the number. After this incident, he was never heard from again. This sounds like a bunch of crap to me, honestly. I&#039;m guessing the doctor made this up or it&#039;s just an urban legend altogether. However, if you can come up with proof of this experiment, it would be a good start.&lt;br /&gt;
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But, from what you have just said, this all sounds like a bunch of speculation and misguided instinct. You seem to throw out the notion that you can be wrong. That&#039;s a bad habit and it has led to a bunch of bad things.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kadamose, I challenge you to come up with evidence to support your claims. I mean, if you believe it, surely there is evidence that can convince others, right?&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Yes, thank you for the dictionary definition. I could have done that myself. What I would have liked is a more precise meaning from you. What does it mean to be superhuman? Do you mean people will become beings of pure energy or something? Or do you think we will just have increased physical capabilities? To say we will be gods is a somewhat cryptic statement as God has never really been defined.</p>
<p>We can understand the universe without understanding ourselves since we can use our brain without understanding how it works. From what I have learned and observed, we will never escape our own physicality. There was, however, a doctor who did an experiment where he wrote down a number on a piece of paper and placed on a high shelf in an envelope. A subject was in the same room and on a bed and fell asleep. During the night he claimed to release his spirit or something and his spirit read the number. When he woke up, he supposedly gave the number. After this incident, he was never heard from again. This sounds like a bunch of crap to me, honestly. I&#39;m guessing the doctor made this up or it&#39;s just an urban legend altogether. However, if you can come up with proof of this experiment, it would be a good start.</p>
<p>But, from what you have just said, this all sounds like a bunch of speculation and misguided instinct. You seem to throw out the notion that you can be wrong. That&#39;s a bad habit and it has led to a bunch of bad things.</p>
<p>Kadamose, I challenge you to come up with evidence to support your claims. I mean, if you believe it, surely there is evidence that can convince others, right?</p>
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