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	<title>Comments on: Millipede comes out of the lab</title>
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		<title>By: vkhavr</title>
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		<dc:creator>vkhavr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:If only things would be different...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please, look the article: E.Sheka, V.D.Khavryutchenko, E.A.Nikitina - Quantum Technology on alpha-C:H Film. Modeling Aspect. - Phys. Low-Dim. Struct. 1996, No 11/12, p.65-80. There are quantumchemical simulation of process and experimental results like quantum dots, field transistor and so on. The samples were stable at home environment more then 1/2 year.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Please, look the article: E.Sheka, V.D.Khavryutchenko, E.A.Nikitina &#8211; Quantum Technology on alpha-C:H Film. Modeling Aspect. &#8211; Phys. Low-Dim. Struct. 1996, No 11/12, p.65-80. There are quantumchemical simulation of process and experimental results like quantum dots, field transistor and so on. The samples were stable at home environment more then 1/2 year.</p>
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		<title>By: akhavr</title>
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		<dc:creator>akhavr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:If only things would be different...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t know details - it was my father&#039;s project (vkhavr@compchem.kiev.ua). I recall that they used STM and diamondoid surface and produced the proof-of-concept device that worked under high vacuum (about the same time the IBM showcased their logo made of single atoms). We&#039;ve had ideas how to do this under normall pressure, but the project was quickly classified by Russia and, finally, we&#039;ve not got paid for it. So.. If only things would be different, that&#039;d be us who presented the working device :)&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Don&#39;t know details &#8211; it was my father&#39;s project (vkhavr@compchem.kiev.ua). I recall that they used STM and diamondoid surface and produced the proof-of-concept device that worked under high vacuum (about the same time the IBM showcased their logo made of single atoms). We&#39;ve had ideas how to do this under normall pressure, but the project was quickly classified by Russia and, finally, we&#39;ve not got paid for it. So.. If only things would be different, that&#39;d be us who presented the working device <img src='http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: vik</title>
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		<dc:creator>vik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And the real link is...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I dunno where, but here&#039;s the writeup in Tom&#039;s Hardware:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050311_1624 23.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Vik :v)&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I dunno where, but here&#39;s the writeup in Tom&#39;s Hardware:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050311_1624" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050311_1624</a> 23.html</p>
<p>Vik :v)</p>
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		<title>By: RobertBradbury</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=1819#comment-4994</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertBradbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:If only things would be different...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is the point that denser storage methods have been proposed? If it isn&#039;t then I must be missing the point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course we know of Drexler&#039;s classical proposal for partially fluorinated polyethylene tape (&lt;em&gt;Nanosystems&lt;/em&gt; Sec. 12.6.4, pg 365) which manages &gt; 10&lt;sup&gt;21&lt;/sup&gt; bits/cm&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;. But we are quite a way from having the technology to construct a real device to read and write the tape. The important thing from my perspective regarding the Millipede is that it is *real*.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Is the point that denser storage methods have been proposed? If it isn&#39;t then I must be missing the point.</p>
<p>Of course we know of Drexler&#39;s classical proposal for partially fluorinated polyethylene tape (<em>Nanosystems</em> Sec. 12.6.4, pg 365) which manages &gt; 10<sup>21</sup> bits/cm<sup>3</sup>. But we are quite a way from having the technology to construct a real device to read and write the tape. The important thing from my perspective regarding the Millipede is that it is *real*.</p>
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		<title>By: akhavr</title>
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		<dc:creator>akhavr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If only things would be different...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quantum Technology on Alpha-C:H Film. Modeling Aspect. J. of Chemical Vapor Deposition., 1997, v 5, No 4, p. 298-309.&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual work was done before 1994...&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Quantum Technology on Alpha-C:H Film. Modeling Aspect. J. of Chemical Vapor Deposition., 1997, v 5, No 4, p. 298-309.</p>
<p>The actual work was done before 1994&#8230;</p>
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