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	<title>Comments on: USA Today: No need to fear: Nanotech is near</title>
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		<title>By: jbash</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why quote the snotty cheap shot?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So Joy isn&#039;t a scientist... so what, exactly, does that mean? Strikes me as not only an ad hominem attack, but a stupid one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joy, as an engineer used to working with complex, applied systems, is probably &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; qualified to project the long-term implications of really mature nanotech (and certainly more qualified to think about AI) than are the materials scientists who are doing the low-level work. He has more of a sense of what you can do with a technology after it &quot;takes off&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s, well, unscientific to say that scientists have any better chance of predicting how a mature system would act than anybody else, and especially than somebody who&#039;s actually worked with complex systems. This is even more true because these guys typically refuse to look at even the most obvious implications of what they&#039;re doing beyond the next one or two steps, or outside of their fields of specialty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;... and I say this as somebody who disagrees with practically everything Joy has said about this stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why quote the snotty cheap shot?</strong></p>
<p>So Joy isn&#39;t a scientist&#8230; so what, exactly, does that mean? Strikes me as not only an ad hominem attack, but a stupid one.</p>
<p>Joy, as an engineer used to working with complex, applied systems, is probably <em>more</em> qualified to project the long-term implications of really mature nanotech (and certainly more qualified to think about AI) than are the materials scientists who are doing the low-level work. He has more of a sense of what you can do with a technology after it &quot;takes off&quot;.</p>
<p>It&#39;s, well, unscientific to say that scientists have any better chance of predicting how a mature system would act than anybody else, and especially than somebody who&#39;s actually worked with complex systems. This is even more true because these guys typically refuse to look at even the most obvious implications of what they&#39;re doing beyond the next one or two steps, or outside of their fields of specialty.</p>
<p>&#8230; and I say this as somebody who disagrees with practically everything Joy has said about this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: bacteriophage</title>
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		<dc:creator>bacteriophage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quantum corrals...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The concept of quantum corrals is incredibly awesome, but are scientists sure that this is not simply an example of wave reflexion. I forget the actual term, but it&#039;s when you have say a rope tied to a fixed point, and when you shake your end so that there&#039;s a crest-trough thing traveling across the rope, after reaching the point the wave will just return but upside down. Anyway, maybe that&#039;s what happened, rather than a surprising and spontaneous reaction on the other side without any traveling done by the disruption in the middle.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Quantum corrals&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The concept of quantum corrals is incredibly awesome, but are scientists sure that this is not simply an example of wave reflexion. I forget the actual term, but it&#39;s when you have say a rope tied to a fixed point, and when you shake your end so that there&#39;s a crest-trough thing traveling across the rope, after reaching the point the wave will just return but upside down. Anyway, maybe that&#39;s what happened, rather than a surprising and spontaneous reaction on the other side without any traveling done by the disruption in the middle.</p>
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