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	<title>Comments on: Feynman’s Path to Nanotech (part 9)</title>
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		<title>By: Christine Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3177#comment-882427</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason -- this is not an odd request at all!  We are glad to help.  First read this:
http://www.foresight.org/updates/Briefing1.html
Then you might contact Foresight&#039;s Director of Education, Miguel Aznar:
aznar@foresight.org.
Good luck!
--Chris Peterson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason &#8212; this is not an odd request at all!  We are glad to help.  First read this:<br />
<a href="http://www.foresight.org/updates/Briefing1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foresight.org/updates/Briefing1.html</a><br />
Then you might contact Foresight&#8217;s Director of Education, Miguel Aznar:<br />
<a href="mailto:aznar@foresight.org">aznar@foresight.org</a>.<br />
Good luck!<br />
&#8211;Chris Peterson</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3177#comment-882096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 02:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may seam like an odd request, but my son Barrett (9 yrs) has been interested in pursuing a career to engineer products to help our military be safe from harm. He is extremely smart (unlike his father) and has a musical ear that has stunned every teacher that has tested him. I am interested in guiding him towards nanotechnology because i believe it is the future. Would you be willing to share any wisdom with me that would give us an idea on a progression plan for his development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may seam like an odd request, but my son Barrett (9 yrs) has been interested in pursuing a career to engineer products to help our military be safe from harm. He is extremely smart (unlike his father) and has a musical ear that has stunned every teacher that has tested him. I am interested in guiding him towards nanotechnology because i believe it is the future. Would you be willing to share any wisdom with me that would give us an idea on a progression plan for his development.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kuntzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kuntzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A Feynman Path workcell actually avoids the problem that a standard solid-freeform-fab (SFF) design has with building something its own size, because it’s building a copy that’s smaller than itself!&quot;

Are you suggesting that we build only one &quot;fab unit&quot; at each scale, and then move on straight to the next scale? Would that be wise? If not, then the above statement may not hold at least for the first scale. I expect it would be much more expensive and time consuming to build a large number of fab units using macro technology, than to build one or two, and have them self-replicate.

Of course, you could build a single 1st-scale fab unit, have it build a dozen (or as many as you want) 2nd-scale units, and then go from there. But what if it breaks down before you have enough of 2nd-scale units? If it could self-replicate at its own scale, then every time it replicates you get another backup.

I think that a fab that can self-replicate at its own scale is much more useful, and perhaps not that difficult. A robot arm that can move around a (relatively) wide area, in principle, can assemble machinery much larger than itself. A pair of arms would do even better. If it can assemble another arm, and the machinery necessary to build the parts, then you&#039;ve got everything you need. You could even have it extend its own working area similar to how a crane is extended or how a rail track is laid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQUZ4DoV_Y
(notice how the machine moves on the same tracks that it is laying down)


On a different note, do you have any thoughts on how we might deliver the feedstock to the SFF machine, considering that the tooltip would probably need to be moving around? Any channels would have to be flexible enough, but also able to carry the feedstock. Or perhaps keep the tip fixed, and move the workbench instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Feynman Path workcell actually avoids the problem that a standard solid-freeform-fab (SFF) design has with building something its own size, because it’s building a copy that’s smaller than itself!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that we build only one &#8220;fab unit&#8221; at each scale, and then move on straight to the next scale? Would that be wise? If not, then the above statement may not hold at least for the first scale. I expect it would be much more expensive and time consuming to build a large number of fab units using macro technology, than to build one or two, and have them self-replicate.</p>
<p>Of course, you could build a single 1st-scale fab unit, have it build a dozen (or as many as you want) 2nd-scale units, and then go from there. But what if it breaks down before you have enough of 2nd-scale units? If it could self-replicate at its own scale, then every time it replicates you get another backup.</p>
<p>I think that a fab that can self-replicate at its own scale is much more useful, and perhaps not that difficult. A robot arm that can move around a (relatively) wide area, in principle, can assemble machinery much larger than itself. A pair of arms would do even better. If it can assemble another arm, and the machinery necessary to build the parts, then you&#8217;ve got everything you need. You could even have it extend its own working area similar to how a crane is extended or how a rail track is laid:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQUZ4DoV_Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blQUZ4DoV_Y</a><br />
(notice how the machine moves on the same tracks that it is laying down)</p>
<p>On a different note, do you have any thoughts on how we might deliver the feedstock to the SFF machine, considering that the tooltip would probably need to be moving around? Any channels would have to be flexible enough, but also able to carry the feedstock. Or perhaps keep the tip fixed, and move the workbench instead?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3177#comment-859533</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh -- I have a request.  You have put a lot of thought into what techniques to use at each scale, what the problems will be at each scale, what tolerances are allowed at each scale, etc.  Could you possibly put this into a chart so we could see all of these at once?  I think this would really help get across the extent to which this is a doable project to get started on now.  Thanks for considering it!
--Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh &#8212; I have a request.  You have put a lot of thought into what techniques to use at each scale, what the problems will be at each scale, what tolerances are allowed at each scale, etc.  Could you possibly put this into a chart so we could see all of these at once?  I think this would really help get across the extent to which this is a doable project to get started on now.  Thanks for considering it!<br />
&#8211;Chris</p>
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		<title>By: JamesG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not have foresight get some investors to fund this? Sounds like it&#039;s pretty much worked out.  I think it&#039;s time to get the ball rolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not have foresight get some investors to fund this? Sounds like it&#8217;s pretty much worked out.  I think it&#8217;s time to get the ball rolling.</p>
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