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	<title>Comments on: Feynman’s Path to Nanotech (part 10)</title>
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		<title>By: Accelerating Future &#187; J. Storrs Hall&#8217;s Feynman Path Proposal to MNT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accelerating Future &#187; J. Storrs Hall&#8217;s Feynman Path Proposal to MNT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] technologies for fabricating key components or steps and considerations for the Feynman Path. 10. The Feynman Path initiative is a specific, concrete proposal   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Abbas Karami</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3179#comment-859540</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbas Karami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh Hall, it&#039;s great to be hearing from you again! I&#039;ve thought about waldoes a lot recently; especially how to build one myself. You mention the RepRap a lot, and I think it&#039;s a very nice idea, but currently it can only make plastic. Plastic might be stiff at the macroscale, but at the microscale it is as hard as a spoonful of spaghetti and you couldn&#039;t make anything out of it. I&#039;d delay my optimism until RepRap can make metal or some kind of stiff crystal, plus some kind of electrical conductor, allowing it to manufacture basic electrical components (wires, resistors, capacitors, ...). Then it would actually become plausible to use a RepRap to make much smaller RepRaps. It seems as though the RepRap team is already planning on doing this.


One idea I thought of is to build stuff out of wires. We already have very thin wires - you can buy kilometers of hair-thin insulated copper wire for a few dollars. You can knit the wires together to make flat surfaces. You can make electrostatic motors. It is possible to envision a &#039;machine shop&#039; using parts made out of braided and knitted wire to build smaller stuff out of wire. A big problem, however, is that you need some way to cut the wires, and you can&#039;t make wire cutters out of wire. A solution is to use focused lasers - you can use them at any generation of the process down to the sub-micrometer scale, and beyond that x-rays could be used. It would probably never work, I just thought I&#039;d throw it out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Hall, it&#8217;s great to be hearing from you again! I&#8217;ve thought about waldoes a lot recently; especially how to build one myself. You mention the RepRap a lot, and I think it&#8217;s a very nice idea, but currently it can only make plastic. Plastic might be stiff at the macroscale, but at the microscale it is as hard as a spoonful of spaghetti and you couldn&#8217;t make anything out of it. I&#8217;d delay my optimism until RepRap can make metal or some kind of stiff crystal, plus some kind of electrical conductor, allowing it to manufacture basic electrical components (wires, resistors, capacitors, &#8230;). Then it would actually become plausible to use a RepRap to make much smaller RepRaps. It seems as though the RepRap team is already planning on doing this.</p>
<p>One idea I thought of is to build stuff out of wires. We already have very thin wires &#8211; you can buy kilometers of hair-thin insulated copper wire for a few dollars. You can knit the wires together to make flat surfaces. You can make electrostatic motors. It is possible to envision a &#8216;machine shop&#8217; using parts made out of braided and knitted wire to build smaller stuff out of wire. A big problem, however, is that you need some way to cut the wires, and you can&#8217;t make wire cutters out of wire. A solution is to use focused lasers &#8211; you can use them at any generation of the process down to the sub-micrometer scale, and beyond that x-rays could be used. It would probably never work, I just thought I&#8217;d throw it out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Vik Olliver</title>
		<link>http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3179#comment-859537</link>
		<dc:creator>Vik Olliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no reason that the use of ready-made parts need be ignored in bootstrapping the KSRM model. Handy monoclinic crystals might make a useful rod for instance, and the growth of many crystals can be controlled with physical conditions or doping. In the initial stages you need to go for a &quot;whatever works&quot; model, then refine it based on practical experience. RepRap is only just entering the V2.0 stage 14 months or so after initial replication.

There is a lot of overlap in the RepRap/nanotech world. It won&#039;t be too long before RepRaps are capable of building STMs for top-down work and facilitating bottom-up assembly techniques. What&#039;s more it will put these tools in the hands of a great many creative people, raising expectations and creating object library sites like &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://thingiverse.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thingiverse&lt;/a&gt;. As part of the RepRap core team, I very much encourage these cross-overs and look forward to future collaboration.

Vik :v)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason that the use of ready-made parts need be ignored in bootstrapping the KSRM model. Handy monoclinic crystals might make a useful rod for instance, and the growth of many crystals can be controlled with physical conditions or doping. In the initial stages you need to go for a &#8220;whatever works&#8221; model, then refine it based on practical experience. RepRap is only just entering the V2.0 stage 14 months or so after initial replication.</p>
<p>There is a lot of overlap in the RepRap/nanotech world. It won&#8217;t be too long before RepRaps are capable of building STMs for top-down work and facilitating bottom-up assembly techniques. What&#8217;s more it will put these tools in the hands of a great many creative people, raising expectations and creating object library sites like <a HREF="http://thingiverse.com" rel="nofollow">Thingiverse</a>. As part of the RepRap core team, I very much encourage these cross-overs and look forward to future collaboration.</p>
<p>Vik :v)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kuntzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kuntzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d gladly help you build the thing, if I was in the US. Sadly, I don&#039;t have enough equipment, knowhow and time to go at it alone.. I don&#039;t have a degree in mechanical engineering, so I&#039;m missing a lot of the necessary knowledge to figure out the details. But I can still come up with ideas, as you can see from my comments to the previous posts.

Here&#039;s a suggestion, based on your own, and the comments to part 9 - how about an official open-source hardware project, perhaps even sponsored by foresight?
There is some info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_robotics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d gladly help you build the thing, if I was in the US. Sadly, I don&#8217;t have enough equipment, knowhow and time to go at it alone.. I don&#8217;t have a degree in mechanical engineering, so I&#8217;m missing a lot of the necessary knowledge to figure out the details. But I can still come up with ideas, as you can see from my comments to the previous posts.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion, based on your own, and the comments to part 9 &#8211; how about an official open-source hardware project, perhaps even sponsored by foresight?<br />
There is some info here:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_robotics" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_robotics</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_hardware</a></p>
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