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	<title>Comments on: Reduce agony of learning chemistry for nanotech</title>
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		<title>By: TimFreeman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Re:some resources, and general pontification&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have the aforementioned Standard Deviants videotapes on organic chemistry, and I&#039;ve watched the first of the three. It was helpful. The pictures of the orbitals were clearer than I had seen before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t expect any quantum mechnics there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They spend more time describing how to name organic chemicals than I would like.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s geared to a college student trying to get through an organic chemistry course. They chose actors and actresses who look like college students.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I have the aforementioned Standard Deviants videotapes on organic chemistry, and I&#39;ve watched the first of the three. It was helpful. The pictures of the orbitals were clearer than I had seen before.</p>
<p>Don&#39;t expect any quantum mechnics there.</p>
<p>They spend more time describing how to name organic chemicals than I would like.</p>
<p>It&#39;s geared to a college student trying to get through an organic chemistry course. They chose actors and actresses who look like college students.</p>
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		<title>By: WillWare</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;some resources, and general pontification&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is a hefty list of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edhelper.com/cat256.htm&quot;&gt;K-12 chemistry education websites&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately there doesn&#039;t seem to be much free educational stuff on the web beyond the grade-school level. Some of Linus Pauling&#039;s books are excellent: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486656225/sr=1-8/ref=sc_b_8/104-1517615-0671%20932&quot;&gt;General Chemistry&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801403332/qid%3D978973450/104-1517615-067193%202&quot;&gt;The Nature of the Chemical Bond&lt;/a&gt;. (It&#039;s amusingly difficult to type &quot;Linus&quot; without typing an &quot;x&quot; at the end.) I am intrigued by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6305216940/sr=1-1/ref=sc_v_1/104-1517615-0671%20932&quot;&gt;Standard Deviants videotapes&lt;/a&gt; but have not yet watched them myself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s probably unreasonable to hope that chemistry will develop the kind of wide appeal that has blessed computer science in the last decade, but if nanotechnology really takes hold, then that kind of popularity would serve the public well. Even today&#039;s relatively computer-illiterate people have a surprisingly accurate idea about OSes, applications, files, directories, computer viruses, and the risks associated with computers. Given the ridiculous portrayals of computers in many popular science fiction movies just twenty years ago, enormous educational progress has been made. Popular discourse about the Y2K bug was astonishingly rational.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The educational boom in CS occurred because the computer entered the workplace. It became an economic necessity to train millions of workers, and to ensure that the training was accurate, affordable, and easily understandable. Employers couldn&#039;t afford to bother with education that didn&#039;t accomplish these goals. Interestingly, this happened entirely in the private sector with no significant role played by government programs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the same level of public education can be accomplished for chemistry and molecular engineering, it will be a boon to public safety. People will be able (as they can with computers today) to assess risks, develop reasonable expectations about the capabilities of nanotech devices, and perform their own bogosity-filtering. The only alternative is a caste system with the potential for an enormous degree of human suffering. Ideally such an educational boom would come &lt;em&gt;before&lt;/em&gt; nanotech enters the workplace as computers have done, but economic realities may dictate otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It might be a good idea to set aside a chunk of Nanodot where readers could post reviews of educational materials that particularly impress them, in any format.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>some resources, and general pontification</strong></p>
<p>Here is a hefty list of <a href="http://www.edhelper.com/cat256.htm">K-12 chemistry education websites</a>. Unfortunately there doesn&#39;t seem to be much free educational stuff on the web beyond the grade-school level. Some of Linus Pauling&#39;s books are excellent: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486656225/sr=1-8/ref=sc_b_8/104-1517615-0671%20932">General Chemistry</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801403332/qid%3D978973450/104-1517615-067193%202">The Nature of the Chemical Bond</a>. (It&#39;s amusingly difficult to type &quot;Linus&quot; without typing an &quot;x&quot; at the end.) I am intrigued by the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6305216940/sr=1-1/ref=sc_v_1/104-1517615-0671%20932">Standard Deviants videotapes</a> but have not yet watched them myself.</p>
<p>It&#39;s probably unreasonable to hope that chemistry will develop the kind of wide appeal that has blessed computer science in the last decade, but if nanotechnology really takes hold, then that kind of popularity would serve the public well. Even today&#39;s relatively computer-illiterate people have a surprisingly accurate idea about OSes, applications, files, directories, computer viruses, and the risks associated with computers. Given the ridiculous portrayals of computers in many popular science fiction movies just twenty years ago, enormous educational progress has been made. Popular discourse about the Y2K bug was astonishingly rational.</p>
<p>The educational boom in CS occurred because the computer entered the workplace. It became an economic necessity to train millions of workers, and to ensure that the training was accurate, affordable, and easily understandable. Employers couldn&#39;t afford to bother with education that didn&#39;t accomplish these goals. Interestingly, this happened entirely in the private sector with no significant role played by government programs.</p>
<p>If the same level of public education can be accomplished for chemistry and molecular engineering, it will be a boon to public safety. People will be able (as they can with computers today) to assess risks, develop reasonable expectations about the capabilities of nanotech devices, and perform their own bogosity-filtering. The only alternative is a caste system with the potential for an enormous degree of human suffering. Ideally such an educational boom would come <em>before</em> nanotech enters the workplace as computers have done, but economic realities may dictate otherwise.</p>
<p>It might be a good idea to set aside a chunk of Nanodot where readers could post reviews of educational materials that particularly impress them, in any format.</p>
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