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	<title>Comments on: Essay considers how to live in a VR simulation</title>
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		<title>By: Mr_Farlops</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;But will they have human motivations?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hanson&#039;s is an interesting essay but, it seems to assume that the god-like creators of these simulations will have motivations that present-day humans can understand. I don&#039;t think we can assume this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Imagining super-advanced civilizations wasting their time in recreating sophisticated versions of &lt;em&gt;The Sims&lt;/em&gt; seems to oversimplify things.&lt;br /&gt;
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One example of the point I getting at is what I term the &quot;Lovecraftian Premise.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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A kid accidentally destroys an ant nest by riding her bike through it. There was no malice in her actions but from the ant&#039;s point of view an incomprehensible and horrific disaster has occured. If ants had the brains for such things, they&#039;d think their fate was in the hands of evil and inscrutable gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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See? It isn&#039;t enough to draw conclusions about the motivations of god-like beings based only on the evidence around us. Our ant-nest (simulation) may be destroyed but, the reasons for this happening may be forever outside our brain hardware to deal with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Douglas Adams had a great line in his radio series that bears repeating here: &quot;[Will things resolve themselves neatly?]...or will it be just like life--interesting in parts but no substitute for the Real Thing. What is the Real Thing?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If I may be facetious, I guess what I am trying to ask is: If these creators have human motivations then how come the universe isn&#039;t filled with gratiutious sex and violence and cardboard villians written in broad strokes of black and white?&lt;br /&gt;
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It is true that our best works of fiction tend to grow beyond even their author&#039;s original intentions to become great works of ambivalence and complexity with multiple valid interpretations. But most fiction tends to be very simple and melodramatic--qualities that seem to be totally lacking in the universe that I&#039;ve experienced so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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It may be true that we are just sprites inside a simulation but, to speculate on motivation of the beings who wrote the code of this simulation seems like religion to me--we just ain&#039;t smart enough.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>But will they have human motivations?</strong></p>
<p>Hanson&#39;s is an interesting essay but, it seems to assume that the god-like creators of these simulations will have motivations that present-day humans can understand. I don&#39;t think we can assume this.</p>
<p>Imagining super-advanced civilizations wasting their time in recreating sophisticated versions of <em>The Sims</em> seems to oversimplify things.</p>
<p>One example of the point I getting at is what I term the &quot;Lovecraftian Premise.&quot;</p>
<p>A kid accidentally destroys an ant nest by riding her bike through it. There was no malice in her actions but from the ant&#39;s point of view an incomprehensible and horrific disaster has occured. If ants had the brains for such things, they&#39;d think their fate was in the hands of evil and inscrutable gods.</p>
<p>See? It isn&#39;t enough to draw conclusions about the motivations of god-like beings based only on the evidence around us. Our ant-nest (simulation) may be destroyed but, the reasons for this happening may be forever outside our brain hardware to deal with.</p>
<p>Douglas Adams had a great line in his radio series that bears repeating here: &quot;[Will things resolve themselves neatly?]&#8230;or will it be just like life&#8211;interesting in parts but no substitute for the Real Thing. What is the Real Thing?&quot;</p>
<p>If I may be facetious, I guess what I am trying to ask is: If these creators have human motivations then how come the universe isn&#39;t filled with gratiutious sex and violence and cardboard villians written in broad strokes of black and white?</p>
<p>It is true that our best works of fiction tend to grow beyond even their author&#39;s original intentions to become great works of ambivalence and complexity with multiple valid interpretations. But most fiction tends to be very simple and melodramatic&#8211;qualities that seem to be totally lacking in the universe that I&#39;ve experienced so far.</p>
<p>It may be true that we are just sprites inside a simulation but, to speculate on motivation of the beings who wrote the code of this simulation seems like religion to me&#8211;we just ain&#39;t smart enough.</p>
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