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Cryonics and Philosophy of MindThere’s an interesting debate between Bryan Caplan and Robin Hanson on their respective blogs. Caplan writes:
He finds that point of view illogical:
And finally rejects the notion:
I find it interesting that it was Caplan who mentioned philosophy of mind, because the reigning philosophy of mind today is functionalism:
Functionalism is in a sense the modern version of dualism, the philosophy of mind that holds there are two basic kinds of things, mind and matter. However, it overcomes a host of the logical problems of naive dualism in understanding what “mindstuff” actually is. In older versions, you had the key problem that if the mind wasn’t physical, it didn’t make sense that it could affect what a physical system did; so what difference did it make if there was a mind or not? This led to craziness such as epiphenomenalism. Robin’s answer is essentially that the mind, as well as the body, is autopoietic: a stable pattern maintained in a flow of actual matter and energy, in which the substrate of real physical stuff keeps changing but the real you, the pattern, remains. It is in fact the pattern that is the “mindstuff” in functionalism. One of the big intellectual foundations of functionalism is the work in computability theory that form the core of computer science and modern metamathematics. This is commonly thought of as Turing completeness, but the universal Turing machine shares its seminal position with other models of computability such as Post production systems and partial recursive functions. Even Conway’s game of Life turns out to be computationally universal. 50 years of computer science have given us a strong understanding of substrates, emulation, implementation compatibilities, and a host of related phenomena. To those of have spent most of our lives working with it, the notion that physical brains are a computational substrate and that our identities are the currently running program and data — the autopoietic process — is the intuitively obvious common sense. As such, we can answer Caplan’s question somewhat more precisely. What you can choose to define as you is limited to a computationally universal substrate (mod storage limits) that is running a process that has various elements of memory and algorithm in common with the ones in the process currently running in your head. How many elements and how closely they have to match is up to, well, you. 5 comments to Cryonics and Philosophy of Mind |
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The mind is not algorithms on a substrate – the computer science meme has been far too influential in people’s views on this subject. The substrate and the “patterns” are not separable (IMO, though I’d prefer to be wrong).
If a matter duplicator could make a copy of you, without affecting the original, you might be willing to allow this. If the duplicator has an option which destroys the original as the copy is made, I doubt you’d be willing to use that option, no matter how convincing the arguments that the copy is “really” you.
The “original” is the real you. Regardless of how many copies you were to make of yourself, your existential situation will not change – if your “original” dies, then “you” are no less dead. It would existentially be no different than if you were survived by children (the traditional method of immortality by re-identification). The problem is purely epistemological: how does everybody else distinguish the original Troy from the copies of Troy? They cannot. Some philosophers then wimp-out and say that the original you does not exist, but that’s not true (the original Troy would protest if we tried to snuff him, no?) – it just becomes difficult to pick him out of a line-up.
So my life will be extended by the wonders of Newspeak?
Suppose you own two houses. Which one is really home? The fact that the answer is fuzzy and subjective doesn’t invalidate the existence, or desirability, of either houses or homes. The problem is just semantics — in an era when people can be copied, the naive concepts behind our current usage won’t apply, and we’ll have to come up with new words, and/or tack new meanings onto the old ones.
Suppose I make a copy of “me” (defined however you like) and the process doesn’t kill me (the original). Then the original and the copy will only be identical for a short time. Our thoughts will drift apart, our opinions will begin to differ, and we’ll become different people. Which one is really me?